tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123423334034520373.post6927375994711822890..comments2024-03-14T03:12:48.000-04:00Comments on THE REAL BATMAN CHRONOLOGY PROJECT BLOG: COMPLETE BATMAN LIST (First 10 Years In Order)TreehousePromhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17694005106893094447noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123423334034520373.post-40238284147585999582021-08-05T05:49:06.284-04:002021-08-05T05:49:06.284-04:00Going Sane I would put later. Its hard to imagine ...Going Sane I would put later. Its hard to imagine that the following things happen in only two years: Batman helps form Joker, Batman has reoccurring battles with Joker, Joker breaks out of Arkham multiple times, Batman fights him enough that Joker becomes obsessed with him, Gordon is promoted, and Batman gets use to all the tricks that Joker uses. <a href="http://www.thecollectionmarts.com/product-category/sofa-cover/" rel="nofollow">covering a sofa with fabric</a> , <a href="http://www.thecollectionmarts.com/product-category/velvet-bedsheets/" rel="nofollow">best velvet sheets</a> , blanket set price in pakistanhttp://www.thecollectionmarts.com/product-category/ac-flannel-kambal/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123423334034520373.post-21842735896070209432012-10-24T23:49:28.046-04:002012-10-24T23:49:28.046-04:00Hey Jonathan, it's been a while since I've...Hey Jonathan, it's been a while since I've read it, but "Snow," if it were canon, would probably go in Year Five, somewhere shortly before "Batman: Dark Victory." If that seem incorrect to you, I can always do a re-read and get more specific.TreehousePromhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17694005106893094447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123423334034520373.post-48887531803599802522012-10-24T05:04:32.030-04:002012-10-24T05:04:32.030-04:00Haha, I haven't read Snow but I'm kinda tr...Haha, I haven't read Snow but I'm kinda tracking through JH Williams' work. Was just curious where it fit into your timeline. A quick google search brought me to this post. You, sir, are a batman wizard.Jonathan Davishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10055077746859104169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123423334034520373.post-11297547781645565412011-07-03T15:56:50.055-04:002011-07-03T15:56:50.055-04:00The post-original Crisis era (aka the MODERN AGE) ...The post-original Crisis era (aka the MODERN AGE) begins with the mega crossover story arc known as "LEGENDS." The Batman tie-ins to this series are Batman #401 and Detective Comics #568, and thus your entry points into the Modern post-original Crisis world of the DCU.<br /><br />(The Modern Age would/should have started with Batman #392, which was the first Batman issue to be released after the original Crisis. However, the storyline that takes place from Batman #392 through Batman #399 was written before the original Crisis had concluded, so it didn't reflect any of the changes that had occurred. Also, Batman #400 is an out-of-continuity anniversary issue that functioned as a special end note to the Bronze Age.)<br /><br />Of course, Batman #404-407 comprises the seminal "Year One" story by Miller/Mazzucchelli that still defines the Dark Knight's origins to this day.TreehousePromhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17694005106893094447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123423334034520373.post-450645505739701232011-07-03T15:43:14.963-04:002011-07-03T15:43:14.963-04:00Great list, I love it, so does everyone else who l...Great list, I love it, so does everyone else who leaves comments so this is nothing new, but I do have several questions this being the first of many as I move my comics around to best match this list of yours. I'm assuming this is all post crisis, so as far as Batman and Detective Comics go what do you consider to be the first issue of each of these series as far as post crisis is concerned?<br /><br />- MattAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123423334034520373.post-60433262319568329142011-02-24T13:40:16.878-05:002011-02-24T13:40:16.878-05:00GCM,
I had "Cacophony" on here origina...GCM, <br /><br />I had "Cacophony" on here originally, but many aspects of the story link up to "Widening Gyre" which still has yet to finish. Once all the Kevin Smith story-arcs end, then I will do my best to add them all in to the time-line. For now, I wouldn't feel comfortable even venturing a guess, especially since Smith's Bat-tales are pretty insane.TreehousePromhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17694005106893094447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123423334034520373.post-88527850711789209812011-02-19T19:29:30.378-05:002011-02-19T19:29:30.378-05:00Hey man, I'm taking this time to thank you, fo...Hey man, I'm taking this time to thank you, for I am osessive about timelines and chronology and all that in the fiction works I enjoy. I'm very thankful of you to have set up such a complete chronology!<br /><br />I happened to stumble upon your website completly randomly while looking for something about some Batman storyline on google. As much people have told you, that is one impressive piece of work! I must congratulate you. I can't imagine all the hours (who am I kinding? MONTHS!) you've put into this.<br /><br />While I'm at it, I've been wondering when would the Cacophony storyline happens, and I didn't find it in your document. I may have only missed it.. I didn't have time to read it thoroughly yet. Any idea?GCMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123423334034520373.post-61914938649935951202011-02-18T21:00:49.993-05:002011-02-18T21:00:49.993-05:00Yes! Well, I've read probably 90-95%. The 5%...Yes! Well, I've read probably 90-95%. The 5% being some random JLAs, and various cameo books like Superman, Wonder Woman, Flash, etc... It's a lot of pages (and a lot of time).TreehousePromhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17694005106893094447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123423334034520373.post-76002179393591334122011-02-16T11:50:35.122-05:002011-02-16T11:50:35.122-05:00Wow! This must've been a lot of work! Have you...Wow! This must've been a lot of work! Have you read ALL of these?Davidsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123423334034520373.post-38713992039679581762011-02-11T22:25:59.001-05:002011-02-11T22:25:59.001-05:00The entire "Turning Points" series is su...The entire "Turning Points" series is subject for debate. Much of it has been retconned out of continuity, but the framework still fits in a sort of "DC Universe Legacies" kind of way, which is why I've decided to keep it instead of chucking it. Basically, Turning Points #1 must take place after Long Halloween and at the start of Dark Victory. However, this story was written before Long Halloween or Dark Victory were published and therefore didn't take those stories into account. What I've done is placed the story into continuity in a way that it fits even WITH the addition of these newer canonical tales. Originally, "Til Death Do Us Part" functioned as the final entry of Batman's Frank Miller-ized Year One. But, like I always say, due to the addition of so many other stories, we must think of "Year One" as a generalized term which describes Batman's first 3,4,5, or even 10 years (i.e. a "Year One Era" or what DC would refer to currently as "The Silver Age"). Having said that, I put Dark Victory in Year Five/Six (based upon my own unique calculations), whereas many would rather place it in the classic Robin-debut year; Year Three. So, if you happen to be one of THOSE PEOPLE, then you could conceivably still place "Til Death Do Us Part" at the beginning of Year Three. Confusing, but I hope this answers your question! -CollinTreehousePromhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17694005106893094447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123423334034520373.post-19889330688754962712011-02-10T10:54:48.007-05:002011-02-10T10:54:48.007-05:00Hi, I've just started an attempt to read throu...Hi, I've just started an attempt to read through post-Crisis Batman chronologically, & your list has been a great help. One of the first stories I came across was "'Til Death Do Us Part", which would seem to be set in Year One: it features Branden's SWAT team, a member of which comments on Gordon's being made captain; Batman comments he's "new at this"; &, well, the title graphic reads "A Story of Year One". However, you place it in Year Five--probably because it features Barbara filing for divorce w/ Gordon, which from what I understand is an event that occurs around then. Could this story make sense for Year One, where it was obviously intended, or is it one of those that won't fit right no matter where you place it?<br /><br />Thanks!<br />--Joe CAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123423334034520373.post-45731882414136175892010-08-06T03:28:59.832-04:002010-08-06T03:28:59.832-04:00Hmm, I think we could tackle it. It would have to ...Hmm, I think we could tackle it. It would have to be after I finish Marvel, so a while, but I'll look into it!Ian @ Trade Reading Orderhttp://www.tradereadingorder.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123423334034520373.post-26734735087061715282010-08-06T01:39:03.734-04:002010-08-06T01:39:03.734-04:00Thanks BW! The only Batman prose novel I've a...Thanks BW! The only Batman prose novel I've actually read is the "The Ultimate Evil" by Andrew Vachss (which I'm pretty sure is meant to be out-of-continuity). The novels you are talking about are the prose adaptations of the comics stories (which at times give a ton more detailed information, and such is the case with No Man's Land the Novel finely penned by Greg Rucka). As a far as I know, the "No Man's Land" prose novel links up chronologically with the "No Man's Land" comics on my list. I don't have any current plans to list prose novels, but maybe that's a job for Ian@TradeReadingOrder (see above in comments). Again, thanks for reading --Collin CTreehousePromhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17694005106893094447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123423334034520373.post-64912621091420839052010-08-02T08:58:39.441-04:002010-08-02T08:58:39.441-04:00Love the timeline! A lot of work has gone into yo...Love the timeline! A lot of work has gone into your research! Thanks for sharing. I have a question regarding the novels for Batman. Do you know the timeline for the nvels as they pertain to a reading list. I picked up Batman No Mans Land becuase of the amazing artwork of the cover. I love the novel. I started back tracking to read other stories and came across great books like Knightfall. I prefer reading the novels to the graphic books/comics, and would like a chronological list of novels. Is this something you or your posters could help me out with? Sorry if there are spelling mistakes....I recently injured my hand and typing is proving be difficult. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!<br /><br />BWAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123423334034520373.post-85798636525103254092010-07-14T12:40:50.321-04:002010-07-14T12:40:50.321-04:00You too! Continuity Nerds Unite :DYou too! Continuity Nerds Unite :DIan @ Trade Reading Orderhttp://www.tradereadingorder.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123423334034520373.post-11402699209123832972010-07-14T12:25:27.389-04:002010-07-14T12:25:27.389-04:00Thanks Ian! Love your website as well. Keep up th...Thanks Ian! Love your website as well. Keep up the good work! -Collin CTreehousePromhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17694005106893094447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123423334034520373.post-21099139639256627592010-07-02T20:28:00.828-04:002010-07-02T20:28:00.828-04:00hey, just a minor point - if you set the first pos...hey, just a minor point - if you set the first post to sticky or put the date on the second post as far in the past, the site will display in order when someone comes to the front page. Right now it displays with the second set of years first, which is a little weird.<br /><br />BTW, I'm adding you to my links section today. (at http://www.tradereadingorder.com)<br /><br />I've landed on here a couple times while composing my full DCU trade reading order, and tI think this site is totally great for batman fans!<br /><br />Reading order isn't always the same as chronology, I'm sure my readers would love to know of this resource!Ian @ Trade Reading Orderhttp://www.tradereadingorder.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123423334034520373.post-66060026657617088682010-06-21T19:24:56.576-04:002010-06-21T19:24:56.576-04:00Good call on that Turning Points issue. Here'...Good call on that Turning Points issue. Here's the deal with "Snow", which I personally really like. Either "Snow" (LotDK #192-196)is canon, or "Cold Case" (LOTDK #201-203) is canon, but both cannot be.<br /><br />If "Snow" is out-of-continuity, it is so not only because Batman is wearing the yellow-oval costume (which is wrong), but also because "Cold Case" from Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight #201-203 renders it so. "Cold Case" tells us that Victor and Nora are considerably older than Bruce and were contemporaries of Martha and Thomas Wayne. In "Cold Case", we learn that Victor knew about Nora's condition for decades before this time period and had even committed several murders in her name. "Snow" shows a much younger Victor and Nora, and the former only just learns about his wife's fatal condition right then and there. <br /><br />Why DC would publish two contradicting Mr. Freeze origin tales so close to one another is beyond me. Which one is correct? I don't know for sure, but you have no choice other than to choose one. PS "Snow" also ignores the fact that Mr. Freeze went by the name Mr. Zero first and even wore a different costume first. --CCTreehousePromhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17694005106893094447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123423334034520373.post-49936005422645474282010-06-20T21:52:25.806-04:002010-06-20T21:52:25.806-04:00This is an amazing timeline! I have to say though,...This is an amazing timeline! I have to say though, I think the first turning points goes before dark victory starts. I don't think it would be made to be put inside dv. Also, Mr. origen story is covered in 'Snow' (LotDK #192-196)-ShemzAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123423334034520373.post-34587831198411668522010-05-22T20:37:10.359-04:002010-05-22T20:37:10.359-04:00Dear Anonymous,
This is why I love getting feedb...Dear Anonymous, <br /><br />This is why I love getting feedback... because I'm only human and there are probably dozens, if not hundreds, of errors strewn throughout this blog. The Reaper DOES indeed debut when Dick is still Robin. And everyone on Earth-Prime would surely agree that "The Cult" takes place in the months prior to Jason's death, not a full year before. SO, I've made the proper adjustments! Thanks for reading and thanks especially for the help! -CCTreehousePromhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17694005106893094447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123423334034520373.post-27545587130943935362010-05-22T06:12:45.576-04:002010-05-22T06:12:45.576-04:00The Reaper debuts in year 10? After Jason Todd is ...The Reaper debuts in year 10? After Jason Todd is Robin? No. And how can 'The Cult' have happened so early in Jason's tenure as Robin when in 'A Death in The Family'(After Jason's dead) Bruce thinks to himself "You're still not back to total efficency after that encounter you had with Deacon Blackfire." Which would put 'The Cult' and 'A Death In The Family' in close proximity to eachother. I'm sure Batman wasn't affected by what happened in 'The Cult' The entire time Jason was Robin. Just something to think about.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123423334034520373.post-11297870353019662522010-03-13T03:33:26.186-05:002010-03-13T03:33:26.186-05:00I deleted my comment I left for Coop because I wro...I deleted my comment I left for Coop because I wrote it before I really knew what was going on with the "death" of Batman... so here is an UPDATE/re-comment...<br /><br />Bruce HASN'T BEEN KILLED OFF! He's not even dead! The corpse that Superman holds during Final Crisis is that of a dead Batman clone. Bruce is lost in time as a result of being struck with Darkseid's Omega Beam.<br /><br /><br />Anyway, a lot has happened in the last ten years. Here's a brief rundown of major Batman story-arcs in order (that are comparable to the relevancy of a tale like Knightfall, which is still one of my favorites).<br /><br />--No Man's Land (the government declares Gotham a wasteland, cut-off from the rest of society)<br /><br />--Bruce Wayne: Murderer/Fugitive (Bruce is framed for murder)<br /><br />--Hush (introduction of Hush)<br /><br />--War Games (crime war involving Black Mask, Stephanie Brown as Robin)<br /><br />--Under the Hood (Jason Todd returns)<br /><br />--Black Case Book (beginning of Grant Morrison run)<br /><br />--Batman and Son (introduction of Bruce's son with Talia Al Ghul, Damian)<br /><br />--Batman R.I.P. (the final Bruce Wayne story-arc before Final Crisis where he dies)<br /><br /><br />There are a bunch more you could probably throw in there of course, but these are the major ones of the past ten years. Good reading! and if you want any more recommendations let me know (or if you have questions) -CCTreehousePromhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17694005106893094447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123423334034520373.post-71538468965800502462010-03-08T13:28:20.265-05:002010-03-08T13:28:20.265-05:00Thanks for reading isiah! I don't think Gordo...Thanks for reading isiah! I don't think Gordon is even in "Gothic" and as far as "Going Sane" goes... It is one of the hardest stories to fit into continuity. DeMatteis' story-arcs usually take months or even years to wrap up, which doesn't help either. I originally had "Going Sane" much later when I started the blog, but it contradicted too many things in too many places. I'll re-examine the epic tale and see what can be done, but I wouldn't hold my breath. Take care and keep reading! --CollinTreehousePromhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17694005106893094447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123423334034520373.post-35089384484146317502010-02-25T00:30:35.213-05:002010-02-25T00:30:35.213-05:00excellent job! You put Gothic in year 2? There is ...excellent job! You put Gothic in year 2? There is a logic to that the Gangsters are scared of Batman at that point, he seems like he is just starting out, no evidence of anything else going on, no robin, no Oracle, no Nightwing.<br /><br />However, I think Gordon was the commissioner in that story (will have to check later). <br /><br />Tough call. I would do either year 1-2.<br /><br />Going Sane I would put later. Its hard to imagine that the following things happen in only two years: Batman helps form Joker, Batman has reoccurring battles with Joker, Joker breaks out of Arkham multiple times, Batman fights him enough that Joker becomes obsessed with him, Gordon is promoted, and Batman gets use to all the tricks that Joker uses.<br /><br />I mean hell it could take months just for him to go to trial for the events taking place after he tried to poison Gotham. Let alone continuously break-out of the place.<br /><br />Still an excellent job!isiahnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123423334034520373.post-10572558996289971432009-12-03T17:29:59.621-05:002009-12-03T17:29:59.621-05:00Mind boggling research. You may be able to help me...Mind boggling research. You may be able to help me. I haven't bought Batman comics for about 10 years and am just reading my son the Knightfall story arch which he is loving. I went into my local comic shop today because my son is buying the Batman Brave and Bold and Billy Batson kids titles. The comic guy told me that Bruce wayne has been killed off and Dick is now Batman. Forgive my ignorance but if I wanted to catch up on what I've missed over the years, could you give me a reading list of graphic novels that would get me up to date? Cheers, Coop.Coophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12288042025967274419noreply@blogger.com