tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123423334034520373.post1385761837360946572..comments2024-03-14T03:12:48.000-04:00Comments on THE REAL BATMAN CHRONOLOGY PROJECT BLOG: "Year One Era" (YEAR SIX)TreehousePromhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17694005106893094447noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123423334034520373.post-26667920851451409332021-08-05T05:50:43.768-04:002021-08-05T05:50:43.768-04:00I always took this scene to mean that Bruce really...I always took this scene to mean that Bruce really did imagine Batman, and further imagined the plot of the doctors trying to manipulate him to believe he was crazy. It was a double twist issue, an elseworld tale where Bruce was sick in the head and imagined all his adventures as Batman and imagined Gallagher's plot to justify his situation at the hospital. <a href="http://www.faisalabadfabricstore.com/black-salwar-kameez-for-women-and-men/" rel="nofollow">black and red salwar kameez</a> , <a href="http://www.faisalabadfabricstore.com/black-salwar-kameez-for-women-and-men/" rel="nofollow">black and white salwar suit</a>lawn 2021http://www.faisalabadfabricstore.com/ready-made-pakistani-cloth-online-uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123423334034520373.post-10922443103743369182012-11-24T21:07:42.188-05:002012-11-24T21:07:42.188-05:00No problem. Sorry, rereading my comment, I kind of...No problem. Sorry, rereading my comment, I kind of came off sounding like a jerk. Not my intent. I appreciate the work that you do, I use it for my TPB collection.<br /><br />:)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123423334034520373.post-72125386410583924182012-11-14T17:59:35.437-05:002012-11-14T17:59:35.437-05:00Akins does appear in issue #2. Originally I simpl...Akins does appear in issue #2. Originally I simply ignored his one panel presence because he only appears that one single time and also because he is never mentioned by name. My argument was that even if this is Akins, he might not be Commish yet. However, upon a reread I've come to realize that this is definitely meant to be Commissioner Akins. Furthermore, the reason the GCPD is chasing after Batman in "Dark Detective" is because it takes place right after the end of "War Games" where Akins was going after the Bat Family. "Dark Detective" was released in 2005, right around the time of the conclusion of "War Games," so this makes perfect sense. Unfortunately for "Dark Detective" this means that it is out-of-continuity since Two-Face, who plays an important role in the story, would have been surgically healed and rehabilitated at that point! <br /><br />Thus, I've removed it from the list and moved the "Strange Apparitions" references to their proper "Penthouse Year" aka Year Nine.<br /><br />Thanks for pointing me back to this story so I could reread it and reassess its position and canonical status.TreehousePromhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17694005106893094447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123423334034520373.post-45703556665785600512012-11-13T21:52:48.172-05:002012-11-13T21:52:48.172-05:00How can Dark Detective take place Here? Commission...How can Dark Detective take place Here? Commissioner Akins is in itAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123423334034520373.post-46573232971065210132012-08-10T00:14:24.751-04:002012-08-10T00:14:24.751-04:00The yellow insignia is not a good way to judge whe...The yellow insignia is not a good way to judge where in the timeline you are. A lot of times, the insignia was included because the artists thought it looked better; Batman getting it at any point in time was something that was ret-conned into existence.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123423334034520373.post-77349919939826835222011-07-03T15:59:09.116-04:002011-07-03T15:59:09.116-04:00Earth-31! Fantastic. It's really awesome tha...Earth-31! Fantastic. It's really awesome that Miller has his own Batman Earth. Too bad that HOLY TERROR won't be a part of it as well.TreehousePromhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17694005106893094447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123423334034520373.post-66118685505133324272011-07-01T12:27:45.958-04:002011-07-01T12:27:45.958-04:00Regarding All Star....
It's already on record...Regarding All Star....<br /><br />It's already on record that it's part of a "Frank Miller Dark Knight Universe". Which, as I just learned, is actually designated as Earth-31.<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman_(Dark_Knight_Universe)<br /><br />It includes Year One, All Star, Spawn/Batman, Dark Knight Returns, and DK Strikes Again. Only Year One takes place in the regular continuity as well.bluedevil2002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123423334034520373.post-80328412089773088722011-04-30T04:42:30.677-04:002011-04-30T04:42:30.677-04:00Collin, glad to hear you follow up on this. A bit ...Collin, glad to hear you follow up on this. A bit disconcerting that DC didn't say anything about the additional page in the TPB. Countless folks who read this story will probably never know there are two versions. Makes the completist in me hope this is a isolated incident and there are no more secret "Writer's Cut" issues hidden about. <br /><br />Actually makes me wonder if while they were putting together the TPB they forgot to remove the page like they did with the floppy issue and it got published by mistake. It just seems odd they wouldn't advertise something like this.<br /><br />Well, cheers to discovery.Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123423334034520373.post-61076187270705937602011-04-12T01:49:40.599-04:002011-04-12T01:49:40.599-04:00OK! Sorry it took forever to respond, Shawn. I f...OK! Sorry it took forever to respond, Shawn. I finally tracked down a copy of the OOP "Dark Legends" TPB and I am shocked that there isn't trace of any information regarding this change on the internet! They absolutely added the splash page you are talking about into the 1996 trade. This page is NOT included in the original 1992 issue. Interestingly enough, with this Talbot splash page included, the "Mask" story is definitively CLOSED-TEXTED, meaning this would qualify as an out-of-continuity Elseworlds type story. However, with the omission of the single page you mention, the story can be read completely different. It seems to me (and this is mere speculation on my part) that DC scrapped the splash page because they wanted to make the story a bit more ambiguous and viable for the realm of in-continuity status. Pretty amazing how one single page makes such a drastic change in the narrative. Thanks for pointing this out, Shawn, and I'll make a note of it in the blog too. --Collin C.TreehousePromhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17694005106893094447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123423334034520373.post-88234389109716286372011-03-25T20:51:11.773-04:002011-03-25T20:51:11.773-04:00Also, forgot to add this would be issue 40 of the ...Also, forgot to add this would be issue 40 of the floppies.Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123423334034520373.post-18506955453618831712011-03-25T20:48:12.474-04:002011-03-25T20:48:12.474-04:00Hmmm, very interesting. I have the TPB "Batma...Hmmm, very interesting. I have the TPB "Batman: Dark Legends" with the big Joker face on the cover which collects this issue. Are you reading the original floppy? In the tpb, it is on page 56. Perhaps this page was an addition to the tpb to give the story a more lucid ending?<br /><br />This page is right after Gallagher and the nurse are killed, and now we see them alive and well, alluding their deaths were in Bruce's mind. Also, it was previously established the doctor was Gallagher in disguise but in this scene we see the two individuals in the same room, making it seem everything before was a delusion of Bruce's.<br /><br />What happened in the last page of the copy you read, perhaps I can tell you were that is in my book.Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123423334034520373.post-24598889791424167812011-03-20T23:26:40.194-04:002011-03-20T23:26:40.194-04:00Shawn, the beauty of "Mask" is that it c...Shawn, the beauty of "Mask" is that it can ABSOLUTELY be interpreted both ways! I'm not the ultimate authority on the interpretation of this tale. (We'd have to ask Bryan Talbot about that, and boy, do I wish I could)! <br /><br />I am a bit perplexed by your comment, however. Having just re-read "Mask" I can't seem to locate the scene you are talking about. Are you sure this dialogue exists 'cause I can't seem to find it! If I'm mistaken (or blind) please let me know what page and what issue this scene is in. Thanks and keep reading the blog! -CCTreehousePromhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17694005106893094447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123423334034520373.post-33068983319358899102011-03-04T21:32:28.759-05:002011-03-04T21:32:28.759-05:00On the last page of "Mask" we see Bruce ...On the last page of "Mask" we see Bruce in a hospital bed surrounded by his psychiatrist, nurse, and doctor. The doctor says something to the effect of "He's too far gone, I can't do anything for him. The psychiatrist, disheartened, mummers "Damn, there goes my research paper." <br /><br />I always took this scene to mean that Bruce really did imagine Batman, and further imagined the plot of the doctors trying to manipulate him to believe he was crazy. It was a double twist issue, an elseworld tale where Bruce was sick in the head and imagined all his adventures as Batman and imagined Gallagher's plot to justify his situation at the hospital.<br /><br />Am I wrong from arriving at this conclusion from that last page?Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123423334034520373.post-79403177594309641742011-02-11T22:58:57.888-05:002011-02-11T22:58:57.888-05:00In reference to the second comment:
I'm pre...In reference to the second comment: <br /><br />I'm pretty sure that the entire All-Star line takes place on a different Earth. That being said, it is highly possible that the exact events of Frank Miller's Year One begin Batman's career on the "All-Star Earth" too. In fact, maybe Batman's entire timeline on "All-Star Earth" is comprised of Frank Miller stories (including Dark Knight Returns and Dark Knight Strikes Back)! DC's press release regarding the "All-Star" imprint in 2005 was as follows: "The creative teams were not beholden to any previous and present continuities". I think that answers it pretty succinctly. Nevertheless, I will look into this further to put your mind at ease. If anything changes, you will see it here. --CollinTreehousePromhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17694005106893094447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123423334034520373.post-27516312764349461322011-02-11T22:50:56.453-05:002011-02-11T22:50:56.453-05:00Lee,
"Strange Apparitions" was printed ...Lee, <br />"Strange Apparitions" was printed originally in the late 1970s, during which time, yes, Batman was wearing the "yellow oval costume" and living in the penthouse. However, as with numerous other tales published pre-original Crisis (1986), "Strange Apparitions" is only made canon retroactively and therefore, the original stories merely form a skeletal framework of the historical past. These events DID happen, but not in such minutia as one can examine in the original issues. (Hence, a good reason why the flashbacks in "Dark Detective," while referencing actual 70s panels, are slightly altered and more vague in relation to things like costume detail). Hope that makes sense! -CollinTreehousePromhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17694005106893094447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123423334034520373.post-55544253234228897242011-01-30T06:50:18.896-05:002011-01-30T06:50:18.896-05:00Gotham after Midnight = Batpole(s)Gotham after Midnight = Batpole(s)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123423334034520373.post-64262056050507384022011-01-25T19:45:09.293-05:002011-01-25T19:45:09.293-05:00What about "All Star Batman and Robin, the Bo...What about "All Star Batman and Robin, the Boy <br />Wonder"? That was written by Frank Miller who wrote Year One, and he has clearly stated that it is a part of the same continuity. Would it be possible for the story in that to somehow coincide with Dark Victory and Robin: Year One? Perhaps it all happens after the Flying Graysons are killed, and ends before future scenes in Dark Victory.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123423334034520373.post-26756284742889640242010-10-25T13:04:57.308-04:002010-10-25T13:04:57.308-04:00Wouldn't "Strange Apparitions" and &...Wouldn't "Strange Apparitions" and "Dark Detective" be later on in the time-line? I ask this because, in "Strange Apparitions", Bruce is already wearing the yellow-ellipse costume, and has moved his base to the Wayne Tower. It doesn't seem to fit here.<br /><br />Cheers, Lee.Leenoreply@blogger.com